Amazon only bow "Herald of Skartara" gives +skill level to Druid's only skill "Elfin arrows"

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Amazon only bow "Herald of Skartara" gives +skill level to Druid's only skill "Elfin arrows"

Post by drakedog on Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:19 pm

Amazon bow Herald of Skartara give +N to Druid's skill Elfin arrows. Is this a bug or some kind of bad joke? Amazons neither have Elfin arrows, nor such oskill. Considering that all +skills on items are softpoints and only increase hard points that players already learned, means that amazons don't recieve anything at all from this "+(9 to 10) to Elfin Weapons"
Am i missing something? Can druids equip that unique ama bow or what?

Bow's properties:
Herald of Skartara
Reflex Bow (5)
Two-Hand Damage: (358-407) to (524-595)
(Amazon Only)
Required Dexterity: 414
Required Level: 48
4% Chance to cast level 11 Phalanx when you Kill an Enemy
4% Chance to cast level 11 Celerity when you Kill an Enemy
+(221 to 260)% Enhanced damage
35% Increased Attack Speed
Adds (111-130)-(181-210) damage
+(9 to 10) to Elfin Weapons
(31 to 35)% Chance of Uninterruptable Attack
(111 to 130)% Extra Gold from Monsters
Socketed: 5

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Re: Amazon only bow "Herald of Skartara" gives +skill level to Druid's only skill "Elfin arrows"

Post by grimjerk on Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:57 pm

All the amazon gets out of the deal is the crushing blow which is affected by soft point.

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Post by Quirinus on Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:13 pm

If you dont have the skill, it gives one hard point in it (unless it says "class-only" and you arent that class, but this is not the case here). As soon as you have one hard point, you gain benefits from soft points (+skills).

So you get the base bonuses from elfin and all elfin bonuses that scale with all skills.

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Re: Amazon only bow "Herald of Skartara" gives +skill level to Druid's only skill "Elfin arrows"

Post by grimjerk on Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:17 pm

Yeah, what he said. I forgot about the one hard point part.

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Post by drakedog on Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:32 pm

Thank both of you for a quick answeres and help in understanding somewhat "hidden" mechanic! Appreciate that.
So, if i understood correctly this bow adds me this passive from scratch and then adds its +to skill level. What will be my final bonus to Elfin Arrows considering i have only this bow equiped and don't have any +to all skills from any other items? +9?

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Post by grimjerk on Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:43 pm

Or ten if you roll a "perfect" one. Plus skills are easy enough to come by. +2 skill ammys have a rlvl of 31 or 32 and +1 skill rings have a rlvl of 30. You will practically trip over rare jewelry with +skills

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Post by MarcoNecroX on Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:27 pm

+x to certain skill never counts as hard point

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Post by Quirinus on Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:05 pm

I guess you know better.
But I have a pretty strong memory of it being discussed somewhere and people coming to the conclusion that it gives the base hard point stats if you don't have the skill.

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Post by MarcoNecroX on Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:06 pm

nope

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Post by Deak2112 on Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:02 pm

@MarcoNecroX wrote:nope

You're right (Obviously). This is why blink has a 5 sec timer when it's an oskill. 1 hard point in blink for the assassin gives it 4.X (not sure exactly) spell timer.

As to the OP, I wondered the same type of thing when I saw the sorc melee set has moon queen as an oskill. Moon queen is a passive that adds damage to javelin attacks. It was weird since the melee sorc uses a sword but moon queen also increases attack speed so I assumed that was the benefit she was getting from it.

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