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Post by jesusjuice on Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:59 am

MarcoNecroX wrote:
Brother Laz wrote:
MarcoNecroX wrote:there are no weird references when I choose the names, really didn't even pay attention on the words meanings when using those names, im changing all these names for XIV

Not sure I approve of 420 references though. 

Me not understand this Sad

in america, 4-20 (April 20th) is national marijuana day where people can smoke in public. I'm guessing he said that because the RW says "Dumpweed" and weed is a universal slang for marijuana.


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Re: Sigma item name suggestions:

Post by Sexen on Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:01 am

Say what? You can't smoke weed in public Laughing

Laz probably doesn't want it in his mod because drug references (for the most part) are frowned upon by legitimate gaming companies.
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Re: Sigma item name suggestions:

Post by MarcoNecroX on Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:03 am

Ah yeah well as I said before I didn't think when picking names, I didn't even realise the name of it until it was posted here lol-

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Re: Sigma item name suggestions:

Post by jesusjuice on Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:05 am

Oh, I think the "Ruby" Dagger RW should be called "Winter Is Coming" as overused phrase in a currently highly popular show called "Game Of Thrones" (Has porny bits though) and there's countdown and a nice amount of ice damage, along with life steal and there's vampires i think.
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Re: Sigma item name suggestions:

Post by jesusjuice on Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:06 am

Sexen wrote:Say what? You can't smoke weed in public Laughing

Laz probably doesn't want it in his mod because drug references (for the most part) are frowned upon by legitimate gaming companies.

I saw people doing it in central park with a bong and everything last year. There were roughly 40 people there doing it.
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Re: Sigma item name suggestions:

Post by manafire on Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:43 am

Thought I'd brainstorm a few suggestions, trying to keep to the classic lore and establishments of mxl/ultimative as much as possible . . . :

Corpsefire's Children : throwing knives? undead or insect reanim?
Ice Dragon's Beard : one-handed axe? ice themed.

Great Geode : maybe a name replacement for mystic shard, considering 'mystic' and 'shard' are sort of ubiquitous for more common materials

Gloam Core : sorceress orb, theme could be lightning, multi-elemental, or mana/magic dmg. could be umo, too
Fireblood Capillary : either a sword or a spear, fire-themed, Cold absorb?
Reziarfg's Obfuscating Mirror : shield, non-class specific.
Entangled Tear of Anu : amulet, probably higher level, rare, defensively themed.
Rakanishu's Spiral : lightning-themed, could be a helm, shield, or ring.
Shenk's Bootstraps : boots, probably summoner-themed. on-death procs?
Malah's Icicle : wand, ice-themed, healing-themed.
Civerb's Mistake : body armor, low defense or def=0, maybe dmg returned, offensively-themed?
Azmodan's Sixth Wing : body armor? breast plate?
Elzix' Stickyfingers : gloves, probably dex-themed
Kaelan's Russet Armor : splint mail
Natalya's Loricated Mail : scale mail
Cloud Lord's Curtain : light plate
Auspice of the Standard Bearer : studded armor
Cydaea's Augury : field plate
Rakanoth's Weeping Turmoil : gothic plate
Bashiok's Sneaking Suspicion : chain mail
Uelmen's Glistering Crescendo : ancient armor
Whimsyshire's Fingerpost : plate mail
Gidbinn Replica : dagger or throwing knife
Bloodhawk Nest Egg : jool
Daystar's Lantern : staff
Entsap Phial : charm? bring back the thawing potion graphic! :p
Qual-Kehk's Gorget : amulet? helm? defensive-themed
Halbu's Argent Steel : body armor
Bishibosh's Main Gauche : dagger, maybe a 3-slot one.
Harrogath's Battle Orders : sash? barb-themed
Waypoint Runestone : jewel, like farsight globe on steroids?
Sightless Eye Sigil : amulet, dex-themed?
Tyrael's Mortal Phylactery : unique mystic orb? amulet?
Ureh's Fountain : spear, maybe a trident. undead/ice-themed
Rogueforge Bellows : two-handed hammer, maybe a great maul.
Midwife of the Drider : bow?
Chrysaor's Lapis Ring : belt, maybe a plated belt?
Witch Queen's Brooch : amulet
Sand of the Sunless Sea : tower shield? light plated boots? gauntlets? light plate? blue! chunk of ice/metal.
Ormus' Sunspear : staff, probably necro class-specific
Bugbear Rib : bow, grizzly giant reanim?
Claw Viper Focusing Rod : staff
Zakarum Singing Bowl : shield, a 4-slot one.
Cenobite's Tourmaline : jewel
Doomcursed Opal : jewel
Serafiend's Peridot : jewel
Eyewheel Fire Opal : jewel
Arreat Quartz : jewel
Broken Wall of the Eyeless : bone shield (bring back that graphic!)


Guess that's all for now. Long-winded first post, apologies. ^^

EDIT: Few more?

Dulra Heliotrope : druid staff. weakness to fire? ent/plant-themed reanims?
Seram's Silent Fog : helm, or a circlet.
Lifetree Pith : staff, either short staff or long staff. light absorb? weakness to fire?
Parthan Pearl Ash : jewel, physical/melee themed.
Kurasti Wine Diamond : jewel, caster themed, maybe poison themed.
Rainbow Facet : bring it back! jool. highly variable, fire/ice/light/psn stats.
Desiccated Stinkhorn : club, or spiked club. poison/mushroom themed.
Cyanowreath : zon-specific helm, probably the ein helm thing. poison/mushroom themed. blue!
Gehreleth Fossil : bone helm, reanim as Gehreleth from Yshari! :DCould be a bone wand, or a bone shield.
Svartalf Coin : ring, caster/sorc themed.
Marbled Frog Bladder : bolt quiver, fire/psn themed.
Lost Cartographer : melee weapon of some sort, probably a mace or club, using a book graphic?
Hedgehog's Dilemma : body armor, reflect-dmg. reduction of minion stats, or some quality that would disparage team-play.
Silent Song of Iluvatar : circlet.
The Flame Imperishable : gloves? maybe light gauntlets
Drowned Temple's Altar Slab : 6-slot shield, dmg to undead?
Maghda's Purpose : gloves, magic find penalty?
Ghom's Feast : javelin, fire/psn/magic damage trio?
Aspect of Idealism : war hammer.

Runewords? Hope Sigma brings back the 'word' part of runewords. More like runesyllables at the moment.

Doomgaze : pally helm (4) : Full RW (and more below) : Gul - Io - Kur - Vex
Maduin : body armor  (6) : Ith - Zod - Ath - Ko - Nef - Ist
Jormungandr : crossbow (6) : El - Sha'ad - Jah - Zod - Jah - Tir
Bandersnatch : boots (4) : Xar - Shael - Cham - Xar
Auction House : 2-handed hammer (6) : Sol - Krys - Sol - Fal - Ghal - Thul
Annealing : pally shield (4) : Amn - Fire - Ber - Ice
Farore : sorc armor (6) : Dol - Tir - Mal - Io - Qor - Nef
Nihilanth : druid helm. (4) : No - Mal - Nih - Yul
Zhanmadao : 2-handed sword (6) : Zod - El - Xar - Mal - Stone - Ghal
Storge : zon shield (4) : Ith - Tir - Vex - Eld
Whist : warp blade. (6) (srsly!) : Shael - Sha'ad - Light - Lem - Ko - Fal
Gengar : nec shield (4) : Gul - Io - Ghal - Poison
Ta'veren : belt (2) : Light - Qor
Nadir : helm (4) : Sol - Nef - Tir - Sol
Variegated : claws (3) : Cham - Cham - Sur
Subcreation : gloves (4) : Auhe - Vex - Lum - Ral
Cairnstone : sorc orb (3) : Krys - Stone - Thur
Starve : scythe (4) : Nih - Yul - Ist - Io
Hellmeteor : druid bow (6) (fix hellmeteors plz!) : Gul - Mal - Fal - Qor - Stone - Fire
Great Antipode : swords (4) : Xis - Light - Taha - Vith
Monument to Non-Existence : weapons (5) : On - Xar - Qor - Xis - Magic
Silks of the Victor : body armor (6) : Sha - Lo - Hel - El - Sha'ad - Fire
Arkaine's Valor : body armor (6) : Krys - Um - Ghal - Dol - Vith - Qor
Dimoak's Hew : axes (5) : Gul - Rha - Ort - Dol - Ix
Gerke's Sanctuary : gloves (4) : Taha - Dol - Ice - Stone
Tiamat's Rebuke : maces/scepters/hammers/flails (5): Vith - Sha'ad - Fire - Ice - Light
Baranar's Star : maces/scepters/clubs (3) : Auhe - Light - Stone
Husoldal Evo : necromancer xbows (5) : Krys - Eth - No - Lum - Pul
Visceratuant : sorc body armor (5) : Hel - Lum - Ice - Dol - Xis
Endlesshail : bows (6) : Xar - Cham - Ice - Krys - Qor - Ice
Birthright : barb helms (4) : Nef - Pul - Sha'ad - Zod
Yfirboro: bows (6) : Xis - Sha - Xis - Ohm - Cham - Sur



New base items? Might be overstepping my boundaries here, but I've always wanted these Very Happy
Puukko : dagger, 2-slot. Gidbinn graphic? Alternate names: Stuorraniibi; Leuku; Vakipuukko.
Bladefist : claw, 3-slot. cLoD unique battle cestus Shadow Killer graphic. Alt. names: Tekko; Kanzashi.
Shawl : cap, 4-slot. cLoD unique cap Biggin's Bonnet graphic. Alternate names; Coif; Beret; Cowl.
Tortoise Shield : shield, 6-slot. cLoD unique tower shield Bverrit Keep graphic. Alt. names; Turtle Shield; Force Shield; Pavise.
Spearhammer : axe, 6-slot; cLoD uniq. military pick Skull Splitter graphic. Alt. names; Longhammer, Parashu; Mattock; Adze.
Ballista : xbow, 8-slot; cLoD uniq. heavy xbow Hellcast graphic. Alt. names; Cranequin; Carroballista; Polybolos; Scorpion
Autocrossbow : xbow, 6-slot; cLoD uniq. repeating xbow Doomslinger graphic. Alt. names; Onager; Oxybeles; Hellsinger.
Truncheon : club, 3-slot; cLoD unique club Felloak graphic. Alt. names; Blackjack; Swordbreaker; Ararebo
Giant's Club : maul, 8-slot; cLoD unique maul Bonesnap graphic. Alt. names; Entspine; Totem Maul; Trollwrench
Arming Sword : sword, 4-slot; cLoD uniq. bastard sword Blacktongue graphic. Alt. names; Espandon; Enhancer; Nightblade.
Zweihander: sword, 8-slot; cLoD uniq. zweihander Todesfaelle Flamme graphic. Alt. names; Demon Maw; Hellblade.
Colossus Blade: sword, 8-slot; cLoD uniq. great sword The Patriarch graphic. Alt. names; Wicked Sword; Godsword; Ruined Blade.
Bone Knife: sword or dagger, 3-slot; cLoD uniq. shamshir Hexfire graphic. Alt. names; Shamshir; Baselard; Ritual Blade.
Arch Sword: sword, 6-slot; cLoD uniq. phase blade Lightsabre graphic. Alt. names; Phase Blade, Crystal Spire, Glass Knife, Illumina.
Grave Wand: wand or orb, 2-slot; cLoD uniq. grave wand Blackhand Key graphic. Alt. names; Witchbone, Dreadwand; Mandragora.
Death Aegis: shield, 6-slot; cLoD unique grim shield Lidless Wall graphic. Alt. names; Cruciform; Warder.
EDIT: ^ whoops, that's already sin class-specific totem shield.  Embarassed  Laughing 
Tauren Axe: axe, 6-slot; cLoD unique ancient axe The Minotaur graphic. Alt. name; Bearded Crescent.
Gravity Knife: throwing knife, 2-slot; cLoD uniq. winged knife Warshrike graphic. Alt. names; Ulu; Rampuri; Oldowan Blade; Tanto.
Tiger Fangs: claw, 3-slot; cLoD set scissors suwayyah Natalya's Mark graphic. Alt. names; Godhand; Coati Claws; Handtalons.
Dao : sword, 3-slot. Using the graphic for the cLoD unique falchion, Gleamscythe. Alt. names: Kampilan; Machete
Tsurugi : sword, 4-slot. Using the graphic for the cLoD uniq. two-handed sword, Shadowfang. Alt. names: Estoc; Tusk Sword.
Battersea Shield : shield, 6-slot. cLoD uniq. Swordback Hold graphic. Alt. names : Wicker Shield; Basket Shield; Thorn Shield.
Beryl Wand : wand, 2-slot. cLoD uniq. wand Torch of Iro graphic. Alt. names; Resin Wand; Hemlock Wand; Malachite Wand; Spinel Wand; Amber Wand.
Ossuary Wall : shield, 6-slot. Wall of the Eyeless graphic from cLoD.
King's Blade : sword, 4-slot. Graphic from cLoD Kinemil's Awl. Alt. names : Wrexsoul, Ornate Blade, Claiomh Solais

Those alternate names could conceivably be other base items, each occupying a similar role (i.e., they're all very similar weapons/shapes). Or, they (or close variants) could be uniques. E.g. new base items: Beryl Wand, Basket Shield. Respective uniques: Lanceolate Spinel, Battersea Floodwall.

I understand Brother Laz found the polearms to be useless, so I decided not to go over those (of course, unused) graphics/potential new base items. I chose not to comment on class-specificity (outside the obvious; orbs, claws...) as well.

Looooong post. Very sorry :[


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Re: Sigma item name suggestions:

Post by manafire on Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:20 pm

Yay, double post. Seriously though, I didn't want to make my previous post any messier, so I thought this might be a rare case of a double being less rude. Again, apologies. So, this is more of a broad suggestion, rather than strictly naming conventions. (to wit, first few things I've done here: absurdly long posts, double posts, making suggestions that probably overstep my bounds, and then just apologizing for all of it). Anyway, content:

So the idea was such that whole tiers would be renamed AND revamped. Considering that uniques are cluttered enough as it is, and this thread (and my previous post) were pretty much dedicated to making them more cluttered, I thought that not only could different tier names be employed, but the tiers could be slightly streamlined.

So: rather than having TU 1-6, SU, SSU, SSSU, and a handful of other secret uniques (SSSSU?), something that looks rather preposterous, the number of tiers for TUs could be halved, and everything could be renamed.

Remove TU tiers 1, 3, and 5, leaving only 2, 4, and 6 as the new 1, 2, and 3, or: normal, exceptional, elite.
I don't mean revert to cLoD alternate base item names for various tiers (itself something that was rather unintuitive), I mean a normal-tier dagger would simply be "Dagger" and an elite-tier dagger would read "Dagger (Elite)"

Gemwords, Jewelwords, Runewords, rares, and honorifics can more than make up the gap in item quality, and by the time you even start to find uniques you'd even use, you're ready for (cMXL) tier 2. Uptier recipes could consequently be more expensive, maybe requiring Meditation Candles or something. I feel that I don't need to argue any further for thinning out the tiers, bloated as they are.

This could be as simple as removing tiers 1/3/5; no rebalancing or reworking for the remaining 2/4/6 other than renaming them 1/2/3 or what have you. This would also encourage players to experiment early on with other kinds of items, and allow for new uniques, even brand new item types, without making everything so confusing and overfull.

Now then, moving on. Sacred tier. Leave it as is. Where before it functioned as a 7th tier, now it would function as the 4th. However, only SUs would actually be "Sacred" uniques. SSUs could be "Celestial" uniques. SSSUs could be "Empyreal" uniques. SSSSUs could be "Secret" uniques (as is), and new Sigma uniques could be "Legendary" unqiues. I understand that Whist and MNX already have many plans for itemization in Sigma, but I only offer these thoughts as a means to clean up uniques and maybe add a certain aesthetic beyond a bunch of numbers or repeating letters detailing the relative strength of tiers.

TL;DR :

Remove item tiers 1/3/5, rename remaining 2/4/6 to 1/2/3 or Normal/Exceptional/Elite.
Rename Sacred Unique 'tiers' (still just one tier, Sacred, but for differently tiered SUs, title them differently).
SU = Sacred Uniques
SSU = Celestial Uniques
SSSU = Empyreal Uniques
SSSSU = Secret Uniques
New Sigma Uniques = Legendary Uniques

P.S. : Just to clarify, white, grey, blue, and yellow Sacred items are always "Sacred." There are no higher tiers. An unidentified Sacred Unique is always "Sacred" , until after ID it happens to be an SSU or an SSSU (etc...), in which case the "Sacred" string reads instead as its matching tier. This is likely impossible or illogical, but the S/S/S/SU naming convention is just so ugly.

P.P.S. : Examples (just to reaaaally clarify):
Superior Warp Blade /... The Warped Blade | Warp Blade
Superior Warp Blade (Exceptional) /... The Warped Blade | Warp Blade (Exceptional)
Superior Warp Blade (Elite) /... The Warped Blade | Warp Blade (Elite)
Superior Warp Blade (Sacred) /... Starhawk | Warp Blade (Sacred)
Dryhten Ealdor | Warp Blade (Celestial)
Steel Punisher | Warp Blade (Empyreal)
The Grizzly | Warp Blade (Secret!)
Azurewrath | Warp Blade (Legendary)

EDIT : "Empyreal" for SSSUs ... not too catchy. Maybe "Mythic" or "Seraphic" or "Radiant" or something instead.
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Re: Sigma item name suggestions:

Post by MarcoNecroX on Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:28 am

I won't read all (yet) but it seems like some nice effort there, good job Very Happy

Just look how easy you come up with cool names, it takes me a while to even get a decent one myself Razz

So far I had planned removing three tiers (tiers 2,4 and 6). Removing tier 6 would essentially force players to jump a bit into crafted items (or runewords) before getting into the SU tiers.

As for SU's I had planned to remove one of the three tiers. The less, the easier to balance. And optionally re-add that removed tier in a different form, like, legendary/mythic unique that would have a separate mechanic probably.

But yeah thanks for those names, will be helpful some day, have cookies!

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Post by manafire on Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:48 pm

Ha, thanks! I hope I was of some use  Very Happy 

MarcoNecroX wrote:So far I had planned removing three tiers (tiers 2,4 and 6). Removing tier 6 would essentially force players to jump a bit into crafted items (or runewords) before getting into the SU tiers.

I like that better than what I had suggested.  Laughing  I'd rather see an opened-up early/mid game as opposed to the very initial game, in terms of item variety.
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Post by manafire on Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:49 pm

Somehow I didn't think of this before.

If the new base items aren't to become a reality (or even if they are, for that matter), then there are a number of item graphics that are duplicates (I think, not certain they're exactly the same).

Throwing Knife and Flying Knife - one of these could be replaced with the cLoD Warshrike graphic.

And I believe 3 pairs of assassin claws are graphical duplicates. Katar and Wrist Blade, Hatchet Hands and Cestus, and Claws and Blade Talons. cLoD Shadow Killer and cLoD Natalya's Mark could easily replace, say, cestus and blade talons. Assuming new base items aren't added; which, given that there 7 claw types already, very well might not need be to in that area.


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