Unholy melee caster - build?

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Unholy melee caster - build?

Post by zaphodbrx on Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:03 am

Hi,

I finished the full Mathael's set yesterday while looking for the imperius set ( and that still lacks one part ), and decided to give the melee spells a try.
Wow. There is survivability issue, but blood thorns/lemures and procs from the set just tear everything apart real fast. It's amazing. I ran K3KBA a few dozen times, blood thorns/flamestrike proc makes totems and ennead necromancers evaporate in seconds.

I'm looking for a good skillbuild for the melee caster. Here's what I have so far.

Terror strike - smax
Tainted blood - 1 pt.

Both terror strike and tainted blood give the same defence/lvl ( iirc ), but TS also adds elemental damage and attack rating with hard points.

Stormlord: 20 pts ( for stats )
Symphony of destruction: 1pt ( good prebuff )

Lemures: 1pt
Blood thorns: smax
Hymn: 1pt

Blood thorns for fire damage, lemures for backup. Also procs.

Superbeast: Smax
Blessed life: smax
Divine apparition: 1
Rapture: 10
Scourge: 1

BL is maxed for 50% DR, rapture needs points to last a while, 1 pt scourge is very helpful.

I'm looking for suggestions on improving:

Hymn: Is it really very good, ie. smax?
Tainted blood: how many points
Stormlord,superbeast: how many points?
Blood thorns, smax or 1 pt?

What's the use of black sleep? It only converts monsters, and has a huge cooldown..

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Re: Unholy melee caster - build?

Post by The Big Ouchy on Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:30 am

Black sleep is arguably the best survivability skill available to unholy melee. Are you sure you need to max blessed life to get to 50%? Keeping a rare/crafted paladin mace with shadow refuge on switch could free you up some points to put into black sleep or tainted blood. If you go this route you can take 5 or all your points out of rapture for some more pertinent skills (i really don't get why people insist on wasting so many points in that skill. Unwillingness to skill switch should not turn character efficiency into an opportunity cost). Hymn is very good but you can get it from an amulet.

If you need damage smax blood thorns if you need defense smax tainted blood. If you grow tired of the set and don't mind left clicking you can also pick up bear stance from a shield for less points in blessed life and more defense.

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Re: Unholy melee caster - build?

Post by zaphodbrx on Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:20 pm

Interesting point about the hymn amulet. Does that cast it as if it were hard points in hymn or soft points? I was thinking of using an amulet with ctc mythal ( for lowering resists ). Currently using Tezange pendant.

Will try out black sleep. Is that mainly for places where enemies are invulnerable ( eg. Azmodan? )

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Post by Str0b3l on Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:20 pm

try max stormlord,hymn, superbeast, blessed life, 5 points for rapture or more
leftovers in tainted blood or terrorstrike

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Re: Unholy melee caster - build?

Post by zaphodbrx on Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:15 pm

I just tried D-Baal and holy shit he died within 1 second.
This is the first time I am going up against Ultimative D-Baal which I had heard was very tough.

I'm playing version 13. Did D-Baal get nerfed a lot or is there some bug with blood thorns? Or is it just that imba?
-162% enemy fire res, 20-40k blood thorns dmg on character screen.

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Re: Unholy melee caster - build?

Post by gg2 on Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:16 pm

It's a bug with D baal.
He have 1 hp so as soon as he drops resist he dies.

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Re: Unholy melee caster - build?

Post by Str0b3l on Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:19 pm

its not exactly 1hp but its kinda like that

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Re: Unholy melee caster - build?

Post by Quirinus on Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:27 pm

it's fixed in XIV

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Re: Unholy melee caster - build?

Post by zaphodbrx on Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:36 pm

Oh I see.

I've not updated to XIV yet because I heard XIV has lots of bugs.

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Re: Unholy melee caster - build?

Post by Kaljurei on Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:37 pm

You don't even need to smax Hymn, you get 150 LoSim from the set itself. You can use the Hymn ammy(does not benefit from +skills, and does not benefit or cast your currently taken level of Hymn) or you can put like 10 points in Hymn and put more in Tainted Blood, should be enough.

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