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Re: Build questions

Post by grimjerk on Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:10 pm

Damn. I write out a demonstration table and Archon gets thanked. Sheesh. Smile

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Re: Build questions

Post by Gekko64 on Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:29 pm

how do you give away cookies? I guess you deserve it more than I did Razz

in other news, thanks for the cookie Mason_Jar Very Happy

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Re: Build questions

Post by grimjerk on Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:36 pm

Nah, I was just fucking with Astro.

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Re: Build questions

Post by Asteroth on Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:44 pm

@grimjerk wrote:Whirlpool WDM 1/4 ND 1. Gorefest WDM 1/2 ND 3 Given a weapon with 100 damage and always hits.
 
Frame*********Whirlpool**********Gorefest
1                      25 Dam                  50 Dam
2                          -                          -
3                      25 Dam                    -
4                          -                          -
5                      25 Dam                 50 Dam
6                          -                          -
7                      25 Dam                    -
8                          -                           -
9                      25 Dam                50 Dam
10                         -                          -
11                     25 Dam                    -
12                         -                           -
13                     25 Dam                50 Dam
14                            -                        -
15                     25 Dam                    -
16                            -                        -
17                     25 Dam                50 Dam
18                         -                          -
19                     25 Dam                     -
20                            -                        -
21                     25 Dam               50 Dam
22                       -                            -
23                     25 Dam                    -
24                        -                           -
25                     25 Dam              50 Dam
 
Total over 25 frames  325 Dam             350 Dam

I'll be honest, I didn't understand this table until you guys cleared up my confusion  Embarassed 

Kudos to you all for teaching me quite a bit about median XL mechanics  Salut 

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Re: Build questions

Post by grimjerk on Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:46 pm

Yeah, I should probably put some more explanation in there.

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Re: Build questions

Post by Mason_Jar on Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:54 am

>_> My thread has been commandeered!
P.s. no problem for the cookie!!!!!

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Re: Build questions

Post by grimjerk on Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:34 pm

^^Sorry about that. So how is it going?

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Re: Build questions

Post by Mason_Jar on Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:03 pm

@grimjerk. It's OK! Haha. I've been rotating between 3 different armors. Natasha's Legacy Ancient Armor, Str Beyond Str, and SoTS. Of course there are a ton of armors out there. I was also considering some smaller weapon dmg procs like guard tower and Arrow (from the 2 TU6 armors). All 5 are great. I just feel like guard tower isn't enough, and the arrow doesn't proc enough on its own (it would need some more arrows).

With the three remaining in my armory, all offer nice benefits. Natasha's gives +4 skills, Ultimative, and 20%DR! Whew. But this build seems rely heavily on procs and oskills. The armor may see a return if I can fit the rest of the gear to it. But as for right now it just didn't help clear the room.

SoTS was amazing. Reaching 20,000 Defense, great procs, and very nice stats. (It's an ethereal 14k defense with 6xsha'ad). I am thinking about this one because of the procs, but per hit, this armor does not compare to str beyond str. I need every hit to count.

Str Beyond Str. So far this is the #1. Great stats and AoE. Nuff said. Makes every swing amazing.

For helmets, I was thinking either ylfe ban or MetalHead. (there was a spike nova proc helm I was considering as well, but not RIGHT now). Both of these helms have ITD, great stats. I can't decide which I like more, for now Im using Ylfe Ban for the CB.

My 2 crafts are still as is. There ARE better boots than what I have, but the whirlpool oskill is annoying to find. The gauntlets are godly. Proc + Gorefest = <3
Amulets and rings are constantly being rotated.

So I'm telling you a bunch you already know. I was just giving reasons behind what I chose. So I'm honestly really frustrated right now. I am going to look at other melee guides and see what makes them so outstanding. Some Cornerstones would be a life saver right now. I really want more attack options. It's just that no matter where I go, I die 50% of the time. I feel like I broke the IAS barrier with this sword at 170% IAS... but I'm still slow. My kill speeds are average, my tank-ability is average.. I'm not sure where to go now. Any suggestions? I'll try anything.

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Re: Build questions

Post by grimjerk on Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:46 pm

Nice write up. Yeah. Zon's two hand swing caps out at something like 7 frames.

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Re: Build questions

Post by The Big Ouchy on Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:28 pm

The only thing I can really think of off the top of my head is getting the sssu gnarled staff for the bladestorm oskill but then you wouldn't be a 2 handed sword zon you'd be a 2 handed stick zon. I think I have a thunderslam cotw somewhere... Thinking 

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