Two Questions about Drop

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Two Questions about Drop

Post by jetaman on Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:44 pm

I couldn't post in Short Questions Thread so I post here.

1) How can I find out the base NoDrop of the monsters?
2) Why have I never found a single Great Rune in Yshari? I did a lot of runs, I know the area like the back of my hand and clear it on players 8. Still not a single great rune. Why?

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Re: Two Questions about Drop

Post by Quirinus on Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:15 pm

?? why couldn't you post in the short questions thread?

1) you cant. you can only check the old MXL 2012 v005 and Omega v003 files (which are public) to find the old values.
the Ultimative files are not public, so you can't find the new values.
the only way is to ask someone that knows (for example me) or can check them and hope they share it (I won't, unless it's an obvious thing like uberboss charm drop rate or something) OR become trusted and useful enough that marco gives you the file you need (veeeery unlikely).

2) Low drop rate, not all monsters drop it. I don't remember if /p8 helps with GRs, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't. (too lazy to check now)
I know more details, but I'm probably not allowed to post them, dunno.



http://www.mediafire.com/download/ijj91tpwndgdgzb/MXL_2012_v005_files.rar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/sqejckvq2cxjzv7/MXL_Omega_v003_files.rar

MXL 2012 v005 is newer. you're looking for tresureclassex.txt in there, I suggest opening it with excel instead of notepad. you're looking for the "NoDrop" column and the "Blank TC" in the Item1, Item2, etc. columns and their value Prob1, Prob2.

tutorials for tresureclassex.txt:
old one: http://d2mods.info/index.php?ind=reviews&op=entry_view&iden=356
newer/better one: http://d2mods.info/index.php?ind=reviews&op=entry_view&iden=368

if you need more details in figuring out the exact numbers, I can help (in general, or even with a specific monster).

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Re: Two Questions about Drop

Post by MarcoNecroX on Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:20 am

2) Low drop rate, not all monsters drop it. I don't remember if /p8 helps with GRs, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't. (too lazy to check now)

It helps. p8 increases pretty much all regular (aka non-static) drops because it reduces the nodrop chance.

There are only 135 lines difference between classic and ultimative tcex, most of them being specific item drops (uber rewards, Yshari sets, void scrolls, etc.). Both brachyceran's lair and triune drops have NoDrop of 250 like duncraig/fauzt.

You should probably not look at nodrop as if it was a monster-specific property because it isn't. It's defined in the treasureclass and a lot of monsters use the same one (e.g. all 4 mobs from fauztinville) - so it's actually a lot easier to find out.

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Re: Two Questions about Drop

Post by jetaman on Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:30 am

I need to know the base NoDrop of areas. For example Yshari: If the mobs have 20% base no drop it means that I can clear it on players 5/6, no need to go to players 8. And that makes it faster.

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