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Sorc: Ice Elemental and Snow Queen

Post by m07zm4n on Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:14 pm

Hi,

I have just reinstalled my D2LOD and started playing Median XL once again...
I am currently building a Summoner Sorcy, nothing special yet. Wink

Obviously it's great fun, so big compliment in further developing Median XL to Median Ultimative!

One question, though: The passive boni from Snow Queen and Living Flame do not seem to work for my Ice Elementals (or at least don't show up).

So just to make sure: Is this a bug, or are these passives added at creation time of the object?

Many thanks and happy hunting!

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Re: Sorc: Ice Elemental and Snow Queen

Post by Stealthmaster on Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:19 pm

Hi! Such passives only give a visible boost in endgame when you put maximum hard points into them.

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Re: Sorc: Ice Elemental and Snow Queen

Post by m07zm4n on Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:34 pm

Hi Stealthmaster!
Thanks for your swift feedback!
I am currently at lelve 84 and have maybe 10 hard skill points in each (Snow Queen, Living Flame, Ice Elemental)
My Elementals have about 4K life and this stays the same regadles of where I put my skill points (except for Ice Elemental itself, of course)
I'd figure, that +10 percent to max life should be visible by now, or at least the flat life bonus from Living Flame, but nothing Sad

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Re: Sorc: Ice Elemental and Snow Queen

Post by suchbalance on Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:01 pm

Hi, ice elementals do inherit bonuses from sorc passives but those bonuses are not shown on the skill descriptions so do not worry.

The easiest way to test this for yourself is to reset your skills and max out ice elementals only. Then go to blood moor and summon an elemental. Wait until mobs take it to 1/2 hp and go back into town. Notice how his life does not regenerate. Now smax living flame, repeat this test and you will see the difference.

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Re: Sorc: Ice Elemental and Snow Queen

Post by Arc_Razer on Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:08 pm

but iirc minion regen is 1/256 of yours so its much slower

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Re: Sorc: Ice Elemental and Snow Queen

Post by suchbalance on Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:13 pm

^Not sure about that. I just tried it and it was pretty fast. Altho my sorc is 120

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Re: Sorc: Ice Elemental and Snow Queen

Post by m07zm4n on Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:06 pm

Hi,

Thanks again, I will try that indeed and analyze the results.
The flat life bonus from Living Flame should be easily spotted IF it gets successfully added to Ice Elementals.

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Re: Sorc: Ice Elemental and Snow Queen

Post by m07zm4n on Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:32 pm

hmmmmm...
The results are very unclear at best.
The flat bonus didn't change the survivability of one Ice Elemental at all, so I assume that it does not get added or gets added by a small fraction of its original value.
Furthermore, the regeneration/healing effect of an Ice Elemental seems to be high right from the start, so whether the regen gets cast or not does not really matter.

Of course, this is data from a mid-level character!

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Re: Sorc: Ice Elemental and Snow Queen

Post by Stealthmaster on Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:36 pm

To tell the truth, your char needs these passives more than your elementals, in case all minions suddenly die in 1 sec. So you should max them, first of all, for yourself. In order to see a really good boost to your minions, use Tainted and Magical crafted gear Wink

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Re: Sorc: Ice Elemental and Snow Queen

Post by archon256 on Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:02 am

It's good to test such things though, because if the elementals aren't receiving the passive bonus then it's a bug and should be fixed.

I know that Snow Queen gets applied because you can see them survive a lot easier in places like TA if they have it.

If Living Flame isn't working because of the 1/256 problem, maybe Marco can just add some HP-per-level and life regen-per-level to the minions if you have any points into Living Flame or something (instead of just giving them the passive)?

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