Melee Barb - need advice with QT and in general

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Melee Barb - need advice with QT and in general

Post by Lorthas on Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:00 pm

Hi all,

I have a melee Barb and I'm quite frustrated. Currently dealing with 2 issues:

Issue #1
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First I want to beat QT, but he kills me before he drops immunity and I can do any damage on him. I got 94 maxres, 500+ allres.

My gear for QT:

Helmet: Witchhunters with pgems (maxres)
Gloves: Honorific 155% allres
Belt: Honorific 155% alrles
Boots: Tundra Walker Set Boots with pgems (maxres)
weapon 1: Nimmenjuushin with Thai runes
Weapon 2: Cranebeak with Thai runes
Wepons on switch: 2x +18 Mark of the Wild Axes with Nih runes for buff
Armor: SotS with Thai Runes
Rings and Amulet: neglectable I think, but rare crafted


I start by buffing myself with Nephalem Weapons from whole Tundra Walker Set and Mark of the Wild from second weapon slot. Then switch to my gear, casting wolves and thundergod and switch to Snake Stance.

After that my stats look like this:




I approach to Quov Tsin and after 5 seconds I'm dead and he did not lose any hitpoints.

Where's the trick?

Issue #2
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Well, the only place I can farm atm is, TA (and even this may take a while). I see Barbs are capable of doing difficult ubers - farming and charms. But I don't know how to do it, because I die like shit most of the time. Gear is the same as above - only difference is that I replace the Thai Runes with  some Lum and a few Ohm, and that I wear another Helmet than Witchhunter (Tundra Walker Set or Tennousuuhai). I haven't found what skill set works best yet. I think this might be the key, but Idk.

#qt #quov #tsin #quovtsin

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Re: Melee Barb - need advice with QT and in general

Post by Mortenkein on Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:24 pm

You need at least 20 000 attack rating in Destruction, in uber levels, if I remember well. Can you absorb some elemental damages? If not, that's what you need too. If I was you, I would fill one of your weapon with Perfect Rainbow gems, to have some crushing blow and I would make sure that you have 100% open wounds.


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Re: Melee Barb - need advice with QT and in general

Post by suchbalance on Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:28 pm

1. If QT is killing you in 5 seconds with a barb, then you simply do not have enough stacked resistances he pierces 250 so you need 450 total at least. You have 310 allres from gear and 8 pgems which does not add up to 450 all. In any case you must be missing a stack in at least one of the resistances, you dont even need absorb because of barb insane regen. Otherwise it's impossible to get instagibbed. If you die from the beam then its either fire cold or lightning, if you die from the hive it must be poison.

Otherwise once you can tank the beam, turn on eagle stance and just melee him. It might take a while but he should be harmless.

2. Not a barb expert so hopefully someone else will chime in on this soon.

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Re: Melee Barb - need advice with QT and in general

Post by Quirinus on Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:29 pm

1.
you need some flat DR, the mo from the shop. he has a physical damage component, and that's probably what kills you. (he didn't use to have it, but it was added later on) %DR should help too. that should probably be all you need. but in case you get killed again, here's a few more things you can do:

getting 175% poison length reduction will help vs poison. (75% is max, and -100% destruction penalty)

getting any % elements abrorb and especially flat elements absorb (for example, from the SU Buckler - Event Horizon) will help a lot, since his spell multihits like crazy.


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Re: Melee Barb - need advice with QT and in general

Post by Mortenkein on Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:30 pm

@suchbalance wrote:1. If QT is killing you in 5 seconds with a barb, then you simply do not have enough stacked resistances he pierces 250 so you need 450 total at least.

He said he has over 500% all resistances.

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Re: Melee Barb - need advice with QT and in general

Post by Lorthas on Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:44 pm

CFM absorbs 10% cold/fire/lightning
with all charms I easily got the 500%+ allres

Flat DR? Hmm don't have - poison lenght reduction neither.

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Re: Melee Barb - need advice with QT and in general

Post by suchbalance on Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:45 pm

@Mortenkein wrote:

He said he has over 500% all resistances.

He did but I killed him with unholy pally 94% max res, no absorb of any kind with tainted blood + apple and was not dropping any hp, yet he is getting 1 shot with a barb who have also %DR and insane regen from eagle.

Clearly he must not be capped in something otherwise this seems strange to me.

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Re: Melee Barb - need advice with QT and in general

Post by Lorthas on Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:52 pm

Maybe it's skills? I didn't use Eagle - max it? And which attack would be best? I chose a cold skill instead of Stormblast, because I have added Lightning to it through Daedalus anyways.

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Re: Melee Barb - need advice with QT and in general

Post by cowking on Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:07 pm

@suchbalance wrote:
@Mortenkein wrote:

He said he has over 500% all resistances.

He did but I killed him with unholy pally 94% max res, no absorb of any kind with tainted blood + apple and was not dropping any hp, yet he is getting 1 shot with a barb who have also %DR and insane regen from eagle.

Clearly he must not be capped in something otherwise this seems strange to me.

Pally gets flat dr from blessed life though. He doesn't have flat dr and isn't using eagle either, so that's the problem.

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Re: Melee Barb - need advice with QT and in general

Post by Quirinus on Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:39 pm

@cowking wrote:
@suchbalance wrote:
@Mortenkein wrote:

He said he has over 500% all resistances.

He did but I killed him with unholy pally 94% max res, no absorb of any kind with tainted blood + apple and was not dropping any hp, yet he is getting 1 shot with a barb who have also %DR and insane regen from eagle.

Clearly he must not be capped in something otherwise this seems strange to me.

Pally gets flat dr from blessed life though. He doesn't have flat dr and isn't using eagle either, so that's the problem.

yep, listen to me and cowking.

get flat DR from the mo in the shop. MDR helps too, but there's no mo for it. then if you get enough % and flat absorb, poison length reduction, and eat an apple he should heal you I think, so you probably wouldn't need eagle stance. but then again, I haven't played in a while so I dunno for sure.

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