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Post by bloodrips on Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:53 am

i am somewhat new to the mod have played it before but a lot has changed. And im about to run into a small problem that im not really to sure how to fix. Im in destruction end of Act 2 and about to hit 120 the problem with that is ill be losing my character orb and ALOT of my resistances with it and Im not to sure if i should stop and farm act 2 for some sacred's or move on. Also not to sure how melee characters survive late game because life steal is not as effective, like should i be MOing my weapon for life on striking? or what im pretty lost Neutral. Heres my gear

Weapon: http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l590/retart481/Gear1.png
Helm: http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l590/retart481/Gear2.png
Chest: http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l590/retart481/gear3.png
Amulet: http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l590/retart481/gear4.png
Ring 1: http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l590/retart481/gear5.png
Ring 2: http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l590/retart481/gear6.png
Gloves: http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l590/retart481/gear7.png
Belt: http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l590/retart481/gear8.png
Boots: http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l590/retart481/gear9.png

With out my orb im at 10 Fire, 75 Cold, 41 Light, 10 posion. And 52% life steal

None of my gear is MOed at least yet.. except for my horrific belt. the jewels used are for AR for the most part

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Re: Need a little bit of assistance..

Post by aknazer on Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:28 am

- For starters you don't have enough dex for your helm, hence it being red in the pic. You need to make sure that you have enough to equip everything.
- Consider using either your gloves or boots (I like boots) to craft a resist item. While you can get the resist from other sources, this is the easiest way (15x Resist All, 8x of each resist, 1x of each max resist gem, all in a T6 pair of leather gloves/boots for a 175% resist/all and +2% max resist/all item).
- If using jewels instead of gems (like for RWs) craft them with either a Nih or On rune. I prefer Nih as it gives LOSIM, but On gives LAEK and some prefer that.
- Generally speaking, LAEK or LOSIM is better than LL. If you can stack LL high enough it can be useful, but starting out you likely can't get your LL high enough.
- For the weapon you need to upgrade to a Sacred item. Either an SU, set item, or the easiest is a sacred item that you turn into a RW. If you need help on how to properly craft a RW feel free to ask.
- MOing a weapon varies, but you want to hit 350% ED and then it depends on your build.
- Change your belt to a sacred item. Either a RW (I like Truce) or a rare/crafted with CtC Disintegrate would be good place to start.

Note that I play a melee sorc and not a melee necro so this is just generalized advice. Others who have experience with your build should be able to give you more specialized advice.

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Re: Need a little bit of assistance..

Post by bloodrips on Sat Dec 27, 2014 9:38 pm

Thanks for the Reply The reason i Can't use my helm is because i didn't have Deathlord activated. And what i ended up doing was adding all res to my boots and either my chest or gloves can't remember exactly. The biggest problem im having now is my life leech is somewhat helping but im sure LOSIM would be a lot better until i can get enough LL. My main problem is it seems my single target is horrible. I was following a old melee necro guide and taking what i needed from it. He was saying to use AOD for bosses but it seems like it doesn't hit half the time and parasite doesn't hit even when i have 80%+ chance to hit. And the main reason i haven't upgraded my weapon yet is because i sadly just can't find a necro scythe. So i should craft res boots and change my belt?

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Re: Need a little bit of assistance..

Post by suchbalance on Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:57 pm

Melee necro best weapon is Sur runeword. Will massively outperform t6 unique even if you make it in a tiered scythe. Give it a go you won't be disappointed. (EDIT: in a superior scythe with at least 40%ED and 100%AR, double MO bonused and luckied with griswald oil. MO base weapon to 350%ED and then put runeword in. Fill remaining space with %ED until 750 and life leech for the rest and own the game especially if using a sacred scythe)

You say you have problems with resists and MO space => MO with resists, but still prioritise %ED on chest. Look to get at least 86% faster hit recovery too. Might not sound like much if you haven't played melee in this mod but it is a huge deal especially when undergeared.

Change your belt to a Deadfall tiered unique heavy belt it is simply amazing.

You havent linked your build but make sure to have super maxed both embalming and dragonfire oil at this point in the game. Reroll some, destruction dropped, rare jewellery with oils of renewal until you get + skills and - enemy fire resistance (MO them for it too), you can reach easily -80 from average rare rolls and you get another 10 from sunstone. This will give you enough single target for the easier ubers.

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Re: Need a little bit of assistance..

Post by bloodrips on Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:02 am

@suchbalance wrote:Melee necro best weapon is Sur runeword. Will massively outperform t6 unique even if you make it in a tiered scythe. Give it a go you won't be disappointed. (EDIT: in a superior scythe with at least 40%ED and 100%AR, double MO bonused and luckied with griswald oil. MO base weapon to 350%ED and then put runeword in. Fill remaining space with %ED until 750 and life leech for the rest and own the game especially if using a sacred scythe)

You say you have problems with resists and MO space => MO with resists, but still prioritise %ED on chest. Look to get at least 86% faster hit recovery too. Might not sound like much if you haven't played melee in this mod but it is a huge deal especially when undergeared.

Change your belt to a Deadfall tiered unique heavy belt it is simply amazing.

You havent linked your build but make sure to have super maxed both embalming and dragonfire oil at this point in the game. Reroll some, destruction dropped, rare jewellery with oils of renewal until you get + skills and - enemy fire resistance (MO them for it too), you can reach easily -80 from average rare rolls and you get another 10 from sunstone. This will give you enough single target for the easier ubers.


well ive done most of what i could with your info it has helped my killspeed on normal mobs but that was not really a problem for me.. im still having a HUGE problem with single target boss fights. so im 16.5k AR parasite and 21.1k AR AoD which i forgot to check but roughly 83%ish chance to hit diablo and the fight took me 15-20mins? point is it took a LONG time and i can't figure out why.. its not my damage because when i do actually hit either with AoD or parasite it does decent damage. i just flat out never land an attack so idk what to think anymore Sad

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Re: Need a little bit of assistance..

Post by suchbalance on Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:42 am

Any chance you could record a vid? Something weird must be going on for it to take 20 mins to kill destruction diablo. I mean crushing blow alone should take him down to 25% within 60 seconds thanks to the mega impact.

Edit: could it be that his bloodstars are putting you in hit recovery and you are not actually hitting him? In any case to test if it is an AR issue, try socketting helm boots and gloves with Eld runes and try again to see if that makes a difference.

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Re: Need a little bit of assistance..

Post by bloodrips on Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:01 am

hmmm very weird... i just did a run got D to little above half hp and AoD actually did damage and killed him.

This is a new weapon im using now http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l590/retart481/NewWeapon.png


Did yet another run and AoD 1 shot diablo soo idk what was happening before. Before AoD was only doing like 2% every time it landed

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Re: Need a little bit of assistance..

Post by romanN1 on Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:01 pm

You should try Chthon RW until you find the full set.

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Re: Need a little bit of assistance..

Post by bloodrips on Tue Dec 30, 2014 2:04 am

I have Chthon RW but it feels like my sacred kills faster... And once again my character is like bugged again..nothing has changed was doing some summoning ubers and now my character can't hit single targets anymore not even diablo who i was 1 shotting before soo idk whats up with this necro anymore Mad its becoming rather annoying

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Re: Need a little bit of assistance..

Post by cowking on Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:33 pm

I'm pretty sure there's some kind of bug regarding summoning in XVc, so it's probably not your necro.

I noticed this myself while summoning dragon eggs in act 2 dest. I have 80k AR and 95% chance to hit, but dragons spawn with what feels like 95% avoid at least 50% of the time.

When they don't spawn bugged, they melt like paper.

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