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Which class is best for end game?

Post by johnnxiv on Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:49 pm

I'm sorry to ask this but, I'm very frustrated after restarting the 9th times.
I dont want to build me character so much and then find out he is weak in end game.

Thank you inadvanced

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Re: Which class is best for end game?

Post by Cracka08 on Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:17 pm

Which classes have you tried.

I've been playing single player for a bit now, with my first time actually playing on realm. But I've always found PSN/ Cold sorc really easy to start out with to get the ball rolling on gear for other character to start. AFAIK, there is no one character that can destroy everything, but some are better than others and some can do more than others. But with the sorc, you can do all of the easy/ medium difficulty charms/ farms to start getting stuff setup for other classes.

Also, I haven't looked into much of the changes for sorc, but I'm sure http://www.medianxl.com/t5017-mxlu-xivb-homless-bitch-wip guide still works for a good portion of it, and is what I used for my first sorc.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Which class is best for end game?

Post by Astrum666 on Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:20 pm

sorc is a viable char, i have a poison/cold sorc whit elemental set , i have many charms and you can walk in duncraig. if you want play a set of crafted sacred items or honorific equip.Another char could be a barb , in mi case i famr TA only whit bear stance and runemaster whith runes in all sacred equip and some proc and % resurrect that ways i get a lot of sacred uniques.Good lick bro.

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Re: Which class is best for end game?

Post by MarcoNecroX on Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:28 pm

i don't know why you're assuming that if your character is weak... the whole build is

also, coincidentially, your question is the first one in this thread: http://www.medianxl.com/t9-less-frequently-asked-questions (actually it says it won't answer it, but yet it does after the prefix A: )

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Re: Which class is best for end game?

Post by bettyrubble on Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:17 am

if you know how to apply skill plan along with procs in this game then every char is viable and strong in their own right. However if you want a tanky char I find that a barb can do almost every uber quest with exceptions of only a couple. Gear and def on barb is key along with a fast kill speed. other chars seems to be for example amazon or assassin dex build to 75 block is also very viable depending again on gears and your ability to achieve rainbow damages with procs. You cant just do like you did with the old D2 in this game you have to have multi rainbow of damages since there are so many creatures that have multi resists. you also need to have high damages so fast kill speed and you also have to be able to run fast. so you will need to have prebuffs to go along with your chars set. if you go and watch a video on Stoya's immortal king barb online you can see how this game should be played to achieve a success in playing style. he has several videos on diff chars and some that will show you the type of gears to watch out for and how it is all used. he is a great teacher in how to play this game, if it were not for his teachings and videos I would not be nearly as successful as I have been

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Re: Which class is best for end game?

Post by romanN1 on Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:01 am

@bettyrubble wrote:if you know how to apply skill plan along with procs in this game then every char is viable and strong in their own right. However if you want a tanky char I find that a barb can do almost every uber quest with exceptions of only a couple. Gear and def on barb is key along with a fast kill speed. other chars seems to be for example amazon or assassin dex build to 75 block is also very viable depending again on gears and your ability to achieve rainbow damages with procs. You cant just do like you did with the old D2 in this game you have to have multi rainbow of damages since there are so many creatures that have multi resists. you also need to have high damages so fast kill speed and you also have to be able to run fast. so you will need to have prebuffs to go along with your chars set. if you go and watch a video on Stoya's immortal king barb online you can see how this game should be played to achieve a success in playing style. he has several videos on diff chars and some that will show you the type of gears to watch out for and how it is all used. he is a great teacher in how to play this game, if it were not for his teachings and videos I would not be nearly as successful as I have been
+1 Stoya's Javazon Very Happy

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Re: Which class is best for end game?

Post by grimjerk on Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:13 am

@romanN1 wrote:
@bettyrubble wrote:if you know how to apply skill plan along with procs in this game then every char is viable and strong in their own right. However if you want a tanky char I find that a barb can do almost every uber quest with exceptions of only a couple. Gear and def on barb is key along with a fast kill speed. other chars seems to be for example amazon or assassin dex build to 75 block is also very viable depending again on gears and your ability to achieve rainbow damages with procs. You cant just do like you did with the old D2 in this game you have to have multi rainbow of damages since there are so many creatures that have multi resists. you also need to have high damages so fast kill speed and you also have to be able to run fast. so you will need to have prebuffs to go along with your chars set. if you go and watch a video on Stoya's immortal king barb online you can see how this game should be played to achieve a success in playing style. he has several videos on diff chars and some that will show you the type of gears to watch out for and how it is all used. he is a great teacher in how to play this game, if it were not for his teachings and videos I would not be nearly as successful as I have been
+1 Stoya's Javazon Very Happy

Not running down Stoya, his builds, or his skillz at all because all three are top notch. That being said, Stoya's stuff is a horrible example for beginners. Mostly because while he will mention his easily obtainable gear he doesn't mention that his inventory is packed with every charm the game has to offer. Beginners often see the videos, try the builds and fail with stupendous epic-ness. Because: A. They don't have all those charms, B. They aren't Stoya.

That being said, and to quote the man himself, "Do your research!"

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Re: Which class is best for end game?

Post by romanN1 on Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:27 am

I don't know about you grimjerk but those videos helped me alot. They gave me a target...

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Re: Which class is best for end game?

Post by grimjerk on Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:35 am

Oh, I don't mean to say that they aren't inspiring proc-porn that show what can be done. I just know that I have had a couple of people ask me that why they are still getting stomped in spite of apparently following Stoya's build to the letter. It's always--or near enough--the lack of the aforementioned--and unmentioned--charms.

By way of mentioning Stoya in a more positive light, I would advise the OP to consider trying Roll's and Stoya's Forecast build (see in Guides/Barbarian/Forecast). For three reasons; it teaches and rewards patience, it shows what can be achieved by thinking outside the box, and it is a great example of a perfect build guide.

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Re: Which class is best for end game?

Post by romanN1 on Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:28 am

Yes I know what you're saying. I got stomped to after creating that javazon and I remember asking how is it possible. Newbies also tend to do exactly what they see in videos without any logic, just replicating (I did that too and it didn't end well) and yes, rolls' and stoya's caster barb is amazing and very powerfull! The main idea is to play using your head and not just by copying a style from another player...

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