Untwinked hardcore builds?

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Re: Untwinked hardcore builds?

Post by Violentin on Sat Mar 21, 2015 2:21 am

@mahitovec wrote:dont play like idiot for 3 locations in the game? and mercenary is going to kill you much often than your summons
also, if your hands grow not from the ass, its really easy to control crowd with bts, no1 forcing you to jump offscreen
It's very nice of you to mention idiocy in context of a build relying on AI to deliver a damage.
By "for 3 locations in the game" you meant those 3 locations which you have to run through for every uberquest attempt. The last one on top of that filled to the brim with elite enemies. In the end an RNG death is an RNG death, no matter how "skilled" you are.
@mahitovec wrote:and btw everything but summoners is pretty bad on hc. atleast untwinked
Not even a throw-barb? I recall fighting Diablo with negative resists on terror back in the days.

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Re: Untwinked hardcore builds?

Post by Asteroth on Sat Mar 21, 2015 2:28 am

@mahitovec wrote:like you werent using acid fiends

they help a LOT, but traprat still doesn't move that fast.

not to mention re-summoning acid fiends with traprat cast rate is mind numbing

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Re: Untwinked hardcore builds?

Post by mahitovec on Sat Mar 21, 2015 2:32 am

By "3 locations in the game" i meant witch spawning locations.
throwbarb has bad single target damage and is weapon damage based on top of that
rule for hc is summoner>ranged>melee

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Re: Untwinked hardcore builds?

Post by Asteroth on Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:11 am

mahitovec, what stance and spirits did you use for summoner barb?

im trying to work with retaliate spirits and bear stance but i have an impression that the axe throwing spirits are huge nukers

EDIT: Still 43, using wolf stance at the moment (all stances lvl 1) and maxed  spirits and greater manifestations. My ranger with shockwave bow seems to be doing all the killing though :/

should i switch to lion stance?

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Re: Untwinked hardcore builds?

Post by gg2 on Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:09 am

No. Your goal is to stay alive, isn't it?

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Re: Untwinked hardcore builds?

Post by mahitovec on Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:19 am

@Asteroth wrote:My ranger with shockwave bow seems to be doing all the killing though :/
this is how pro summon barbs playing. Razz summons for tanking, merc for damage. im using retals for cc, when i feel safe enough i switch to bl ones to increase merc damage. as for stances, im using bear/wolf for hc and k3k purposes.
in my opinion lion stance is worst stance in the game, really questionable stats for such penatly

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Re: Untwinked hardcore builds?

Post by Asteroth on Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:34 pm

ye lion stance is super risky, i just figured the spirits should be doing damage too lol.
In that case i'll stick to what i've been doing.

I'm not on hc right now, so i can experiment, but am untwinked which makes things a bit trickier. i've never played a summoner so i have a poor idea of how to itemize. 

what kind of gear did you use?

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Re: Untwinked hardcore builds?

Post by romanN1 on Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:45 pm

Well lion stance is the increase of killspeed at the cost of the damage taken, just like ecstatic frenzy.

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Re: Untwinked hardcore builds?

Post by Stealthmaster on Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:48 pm

@romanN1 wrote:Well lion stance is the increase of killspeed at the cost of the damage taken, just like ecstatic frenzy.

There is a BIG difference between 95% tbh and 100-50% negative DR. The answer to a question like 'which modifier is more dangerous' will be obvious... Cannot be compared, imo.

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Re: Untwinked hardcore builds?

Post by grimjerk on Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:55 pm

^^-25% DR once you start going, point wise.

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