Heroic Quest:Belial (hatred diff.lvl.) reward ?

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Heroic Quest:Belial (hatred diff.lvl.) reward ?

Post by DBynum1 on Sat May 30, 2015 6:01 am

As my character approaches the lvl limits for some of the lower quests, I've been reading the game doc's for
the quests and I have a question >

Heroic-Quest:Belial lists a 'Hatred:difficulty' level limit of L-65.
The game doc's http://docs.median-xl.com/ state you must kill him on Terror-difficulty level.

My question is: Is there any reward for killing Belial on 'Hatred-difficulty' level ?
(is the Hatred-difficulty lvl limit superfluous ?)

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Re: Heroic Quest:Belial (hatred diff.lvl.) reward ?

Post by Asteroth on Sat May 30, 2015 6:11 am

it is superfluous, unless you want to practice i suppose, but even then it's better to practice at destruction when he actually drops charms

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Re: Heroic Quest:Belial (hatred diff.lvl.) reward ?

Post by Str0b3l on Sat May 30, 2015 10:17 am

not rly worth the effort except as asteroth mentioned, for testing/training
if you have more questions to ask, post them here or in the short question thread

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Re: Heroic Quest:Belial (hatred diff.lvl.) reward ?

Post by Ben- on Sat May 30, 2015 12:52 pm

Hatred belial doesn't have a level limit of 65, that's what monster level belial is in hatred I believe

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Re: Heroic Quest:Belial (hatred diff.lvl.) reward ?

Post by DBynum1 on Sat May 30, 2015 2:11 pm

Dungeon Quest: Infernal Machine
Hatred difficulty level - lvl limit 65
Location
The Pit Level 2 (Act 1: Tamoe Highland

I just wiped everything in here out (lvl 64 Sorc): no drop. Can I assume this lvl limit is equally superfluous ?

* @Str0b3l - the odd thing is I entered the short questions thread (on purpose) and clicked on "new topic"
and this is where it threw the post. Should I have clicked on "post reply" instead (when your inside the short q's thread) ?

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Re: Heroic Quest:Belial (hatred diff.lvl.) reward ?

Post by Str0b3l on Sat May 30, 2015 2:35 pm

just use the small white textbock at the bottom of the screen, type your message and "send"
like you just did lol

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Re: Heroic Quest:Belial (hatred diff.lvl.) reward ?

Post by suchbalance on Sat May 30, 2015 2:48 pm

I don't know where in the docs you are looking at, but this is how the uber info looks like in Uberquests->Dungeon ubers



It does not say "level limit" anywhere. Those level numbers are the level of the monster on that difficulty. This is useful so you know up to what items can drop there on each difficulty and how much you can farm it for XP if you wish. There is no point in doing any uberquests apart from the challenges until destruction, unless you want practice.

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Re: Heroic Quest:Belial (hatred diff.lvl.) reward ?

Post by DBynum1 on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:51 am

@suchbalance

I don't know where in the docs you are looking at

(doc.source.1.)
The Butcher:
http://docs.median-xl.com/

Reward
Defeat the Butcher on Destruction difficulty to get The Butcher's Tooth.

The Black Road Challenge
Defeat The Butcher on Terror difficulty to be able to do a part of this challenge.

(doc.source.2.)

http://www.medianxl.com/t248-2012-challenges-a-beginner-s-guide

2. - The Level Challenges [sct2]

The Level Challenges have a level restriction, meaning you can't complete them after exceeding a certain level. This also includes the Ennead Challenge, in section 3. These quests require immediate attention, as you will miss out on powerful items if you don't complete them.

Level Challenge I: Maximum Level 50 (60, 70)
The Ennead Challenge: Maximum Level 80
Level Challenge II: Maximum Level 90

2.2 - Level Challenge II, Maximum Level 90 [pt22]
Difficulty: Terror
Location: Valley of Snakes, Act 2

3. - The Ennead Challenge, Maximum Level 80 [sct3]
Difficulty: Hatred
Location: Kurast 3000 BA (Act 3, Arachnid Lair, Spider Forest)

4. - The Black Road Challenge

4.1 - Trial of Fear [pt41]
Difficulty: Terror
Location: The Hole, Level 2, Black Marsh, Act 1

4.3 - Trial of Contrition [pt43]
Difficulty: Terror
Location: Arreat Summit, Act 5

4.4 - Trial of Knowledge [pt44]
Difficulty: Terror
Location: Fauztinville, Stony Tomb, level 2, Act 2

4.5 - Trial of Blood [pt45]
Difficulty: Terror
Location: Tran Athulua, Halls of the Dead, level 3, Act 2

(end.list of.doc.sources)

My current char level is 70.
Level challenge 0 - completed @lvl 5
Level challenge 1 - completed @ lvl 49
Ennead challenge - completed @lvl 38

To the best of my current knowledge, my next challenge is Summoning (& killing) the Butcher
on Terror difficulty - to enable the Summoning of him on Destruction difficulty
to obtain The Butcher's Tooth.
As far as I know all other components of the Black Road challenge must be completed on Terror difficulty.

And I am still not clear on what the Terror difficulty level restriction or limit is. All replies appreciated, thank you.

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Re: Heroic Quest:Belial (hatred diff.lvl.) reward ?

Post by suchbalance on Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:04 am

Well first of all I applaud your willingness to read up on a new game, not many newbies put the same effort in and as a result often get frustrated.

Your next challenge is the Level challenge 2 - where you need to do the Binding of Baal uberquest on terror (valley of snakes).

The black road challenge is a multi stage challenge with no level restriction. This is because the last parts of it can be challenging to some characters even at max level.

I guess you were confused because that forum guide states "these challenges have a level restriction" and lists the BRC, which does not, in the same category as the others. As a future heads up, if you read contrasting information in the docs and on the forum - always follow the docs as they are kept up to date and verified by forum admins.

If you wish to get your feet wet, then by all means attempt the BRC trials as you progress through terror. However don't be surprised if knowledge & blood give you enough trouble to warrant coming back later.

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